Descartes
Two years after Descartes published his meditations on first philosophy, Princess Elisabeth of Bohemia wrote with questions concerning the relationship between the immaterial soul and the corporeal body- specifically how anything immaterial could produce physical effects. She was neither the first nor the last to question this practical application of Descartes’ dualism, but her questions elicited the most comprehensive attempt to answer the question. In this paper I will examine Descartes’ arguments for the existence of body as distinct from the mind; outline Elisabeth’s objections and proposed solutions, and argue that Descartes’ responses to Elisabeth are inadequate to address the problem of mind-body interaction without
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She also can’t fully accept his explanation of how the body moves the mind as it is “Very difficult to comprehend that a soul …after having had the faculty and habit of reasoning well, can lose all of it on account of some vapors” (p.17). The ability of the mind to function appears to be dependent upon the proper functioning of the body (more specifically, the brain). So it appears, at least to Elisabeth, that the distinction Descartes draws between the mind and body is flawed, for if the soul were truly a separate and distinct substance, why should afflictions of the body, whether drunkenness, stress, or fevers, affect the ability to reason? The only way to explain the connection, for Elisabeth, is for the soul to be material as well. In her various letters she advances the solution of an extended soul, saying at first that it is equally essential as thought, and later that it may be a non-essential, but still present, property of the soul (p.21).
In both responses to Elizabeth, Descartes invokes three primitive notions. First, the notion of the mind: an essentially and only a thinking thing, known through understanding alone (p.18). Second, the notion of the body: an essentially and only an extended thing, known through the understanding aided by imagination (p.18). And, thirdly, the notion of the union of the two, which cannot be known through the understanding, but only conceived through the senses. Because it is not clear to the understanding it will
Moreover, Descartes relies on having a thorough knowledge of mind and body. We may conclude with Descartes that thought is necessary to having a mind, and materiality is necessary to having a body, it does not inevitably follow that there is an entity whose sole nature is to think. Descartes is limited by his subjective viewpoint that it could not be the case that extension could be another property of mind. He needs to prove the stronger argument that it is not possible for the mind to have extension as one of it’s properties. Descartes tries to make this proof in his Divisibility Argument:
René Descartes believed that the mind and body are separate; that the senses could not always be trusted, but that because we as humans are able to think about our existence, we possess some sort of entity separate than our fleshly body. I believe this separate entity to be a soul”an immaterial and
In this paper, I will discuss the “Divisibility argument” on Descartes mind- body dualism presented on Descartes meditations. I will claim that the mind and the body are in fact different as Descartes argument suggests, but I will more rather neglect and explain why his belief that the mind is indivisible is wrong. I also will discuss how Descartes argument on the body’s divisibility is reasonable, and the reasons why I believe this argument is true.
This is where the wax argument comes into play. All the properties of the piece of wax that we perceive with the senses change as the wax melts. This is true as well of its primary properties, such as shape, extension and size. Yet the wax remains the same piece of wax as it melts. We know the wax through our mind and judgement, not through our senses or imagination. Therefore, every act of clear and distinct knowledge of corporeal matter also provides even more certain evidence for the existence of Descartes as a thinking thing. Therefore his mind is much clearer and more distinctly know to him than his body. At this
Like many people today, Descartes believed that the mind and soul were separate. He believed that the mind’s purpose was only for “thinking” and “non-extended” things. While, the body is an extension; non-thinking. Descartes thought that the mind and body were different substances, thus they
Summary: The problem of the soul continues as Descartes suggested that the human is composed of two completely different substances; a physical body which Descartes compares with a machine, and a non-physical mind, related to the soul, that allows humans to think and feel even if it has no “measurable dimensions” (67). But Elizabeth put in doubt his ideologies when she realized that a non-physical thing doesn’t have the strength to push and move the body. This led to several questions unanswered and also let space for other materialist theories such as behaviorism, mind-brain identity, and functionalism, which also fail in offering an explicit solution.
In the Correspondence, Princess Elizabeth questions how the mind, which has no mass and no physical properties can "determine bodily spirits to perform voluntary actions" (Page 217). She wants to know exactly how thoughts in a mind can perform actions through a physical body and believes there is a problem with Descartes' logic. Descartes starts out by saying there are two facts about the human mind that all knowledge depends on: 1. it thinks and 2. by being united to the body it can act and be acted upon. Descartes explains why he believes this reasoning by giving additional notions for the body, mind, and the body and mind together. When referring to the body, Descartes says "we only have the notion of extension, which entails the notions
that you exist is proof that you in fact exist as how can you doubt
In Descartes Meditations on First Philosophy, he introduces the divisibility argument for his idea of mind-body dualism. It argues that the mind is distinct from the body and that they are different "substances". The argument has two premises; the mind is indivisible and the body is divisible. In this essay, I will interpret Descartes' argument by discussing the key points of these premises and how they are supported. I will also be incorporating my own thoughts on the argument to determine whether the divisibility argument is enough to validate the idea of mind-body dualism.
René Descartes’ seventeenth century philosophy receives much of the credit for the basis of modern philosophy, specifically his argument that the body and the mind are completely separate substances, each with its own independence from the other, also known as dualism. Descartes was educated in the Aristotelian and Greek tradition, and those ideas influenced his dualist thought. In Meditations, Descartes focused on dualism in the context of human consciousness. While the work is organized in separate ‘Meditations’, and Descartes’ main motivation for writing it was likely philosophical exploration, there are mentions of God in the part of Meditations on dualism, because the separation of mind and body often leads to the necessity of the existence of a soul, and therefore gave itself nicely to a seventeenth-century theology. Despite its organic religious affiliation, Meditations was not universally agreed upon, or even well liked, specifically by people who believed that the body and the mind, everything that makes up a person, is the same physical substance. Among these disbelievers in Cartesian dualism was Princess Elisabeth of Bohemia, a staunch materialist who responded to Descartes’ work through a series of letters. Elisabeth’s doubts of Descartes’ dualism remain one of the greatest arguments against substance dualism.
Descartes’ Meditation 6 explains the distinction between the mind and body. He explains that he is confused as to why his mind is attached to a particular body to which he calls his own. He questions why pain or tickling happens in his own body but does not occur in any body outside of his own and why a tugging feeling in his stomach tells him that he is hungry and that he should eat. From this, he perceives that he is only a thinking thing. The idea of a body is merely extended and the mind is
I am going to argue that Princess Elisabeth is wrong to claim that an immaterial mind cannot interact with a material body. It is not a mystery the brain controls our body and actions. But what Princess Elisabeth desires to find out in her correspondence with Descartes is what comes in-between the mind and brain and how can they interact.
Princess Elisabeth of Bohemia wrote Descartes a letter asking him what his definition of a soul is. In her words, “a definition of the substance separate from its action, thought”. Essentially, she is asking him to clarify his stance on the ability of the mind/soul to cause a body to act. Elisabeth inquires that because the soul has no substance, how can it possibly elicit actions from a body? In order for something to affect a body to move it must also have mass or extension.
When Princess Elisabeth questioned Descartes on the possibility of interaction between heterogeneous substances [AT III 661]., he answered recognizing that through his works, he had not said much about the union of mind and body. In his letter [21-05-1643] Descartes justifies this saying he had been primarily focused in the demonstration of the distinction between mind and body.
Descartes has a very distinct thought when thinking about the mind, and how it relates to the body, or more specifically then brain. He seems to want to explain that the mind in itself is independent from the body. A body is merely a physical entity that could be proven to be true scientifically and also can be proven through the senses. Such things are not possible with the meta-physical mind because it is independent of the body. Building on his previous premises, Descartes finally proves whether material things exist or not and determines whether his mind and body are separate from each other or not. In Meditation Six, Descartes lays the foundation for dualism which has become one of the most important arguments in philosophy.